Comments on: Web Learning about Web Learning for teachers http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/ Teaching and Learning in a Net-Centric World Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:42:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Reflections on week 1 | digital lifeboat http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/comment-page-1/#comment-1470 Reflections on week 1 | digital lifeboat Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:39:57 +0000 http://terrya.edublogs.org/?p=108#comment-1470 [...] http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/ [...] [...] http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/ [...]

]]> By: Philip Watland http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/comment-page-1/#comment-1468 Philip Watland Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:38:16 +0000 http://terrya.edublogs.org/?p=108#comment-1468 Hi Terry, The project outcomes sound promising and I would be happy to become more involved and will contact Epigeum. In my current role I find that there is more than enough training on the mechanics of how to use various educational technologies (click here to add this; click here for this option ...) . What is missing seems for me as well (and what this project seems to be aiming to address to some degree) is how educational technologies can be used to support teaching and learning. It will be interesting to see how these modules model this. Philip Hi Terry,

The project outcomes sound promising and I would be happy to become more involved and will contact Epigeum. In my current role I find that there is more than enough training on the mechanics of how to use various educational technologies (click here to add this; click here for this option …) . What is missing seems for me as well (and what this project seems to be aiming to address to some degree) is how educational technologies can be used to support teaching and learning. It will be interesting to see how these modules model this.

Philip

]]> By: Callie O Farrell http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/comment-page-1/#comment-1467 Callie O Farrell Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:26:40 +0000 http://terrya.edublogs.org/?p=108#comment-1467 A very interesting post! As a company we are in the process of writing e-workbooks with checklist excercises embedded. The idea being that in order to complete the work book you will have completed a number of excercises showing that the concept has been understood. This gives an effective tickbox for educators to quuantify up take with. As for using technologies the workbook are in effect hosted wikis which in itself encourages engagement and active interaction. This method also allows a question and answer space with the discussion pages. Callie A very interesting post!
As a company we are in the process of writing e-workbooks with checklist excercises embedded. The idea being that in order to complete the work book you will have completed a number of excercises showing that the concept has been understood. This gives an effective tickbox for educators to quuantify up take with.
As for using technologies the workbook are in effect hosted wikis which in itself encourages engagement and active interaction. This method also allows a question and answer space with the discussion pages.

Callie

]]> By: Jon Dron http://terrya.edublogs.org/2008/09/08/108/comment-page-1/#comment-1466 Jon Dron Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:59:54 +0000 http://terrya.edublogs.org/?p=108#comment-1466 The for-profit approach to this kind of system worries me a bit and, as a structural feature, might well drive the rest. Get the best people in the world on conversational and social learning, then make them produce a non-social product? Someone is missing a trick here. Even from the three experts you mention, this is an incredible team to assemble. The approach to development seems unusually sound, employing all the right standards and methods. By rights these should be the best lessons ever! My suspicion is that they might not be so, even though they are sure to be good. So much is determined by structural features, especially the earlier decisions, that even the best team in the world (this could be it) cannot overcome the constraints. Throw in a bunch of power relationships and the strengths of the team become more dilute. And then the technical folk get involved... Very small point: my understanding is that the UK community is fond of using 'MLE' (managed learning environment) to mean what most of the rest of us mean by 'LMS', rather than the more generic 'VLE', which describes any kind of virtual space used specifically for learning, whether incorporating management features or not. Why does the UK not do what everyone else does? I have very little idea. Having said that, and on the whole, I would mostly rather have a managed learning environment than managed learning :-) The for-profit approach to this kind of system worries me a bit and, as a structural feature, might well drive the rest. Get the best people in the world on conversational and social learning, then make them produce a non-social product? Someone is missing a trick here.

Even from the three experts you mention, this is an incredible team to assemble. The approach to development seems unusually sound, employing all the right standards and methods. By rights these should be the best lessons ever! My suspicion is that they might not be so, even though they are sure to be good. So much is determined by structural features, especially the earlier decisions, that even the best team in the world (this could be it) cannot overcome the constraints. Throw in a bunch of power relationships and the strengths of the team become more dilute. And then the technical folk get involved…

Very small point: my understanding is that the UK community is fond of using ‘MLE’ (managed learning environment) to mean what most of the rest of us mean by ‘LMS’, rather than the more generic ‘VLE’, which describes any kind of virtual space used specifically for learning, whether incorporating management features or not. Why does the UK not do what everyone else does? I have very little idea. Having said that, and on the whole, I would mostly rather have a managed learning environment than managed learning :-)

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